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SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

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SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This question was originally posted by Adrian on APC forums on 2/5/2011


Hello everybody!

I have a question regarding my old UPS.
I am going to put some pictures of the unit and a print-screen from the info menu in the powerchute. According to those info's, if there are accurate, this unit was manufactured in 1997... that's quite some time... almoust 14 years, seems preety much, if you ask me. I purchased the UPS, refurbished, in 2005.
The unit is performing very well, but God knows what's inside.

My question is if it's still safe to use it ? What is the life expectancy of those units? Or, if it was "refurbished" so it means that all the "almoust dead" components like capacitors, transistors, etc... were replaced in service?

What are you people saying about this? I would like also an APC tehnician or employee to answer this.


Thank you very much!
Adrian.

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This was originally posted on APC forums on 5/26/2011


Hi

I have two older ups, over 10 years, both serial, and both have had their batteries replaced.

When I found out the Apple Macs would not support them, I bought two keyspan serial - usb converters
and used apcupsd to local/remote monitor them.

I since have purchased a smaller apc ups for my usb based NAS.

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This reply was originally posted by Adrian on APC forums on 2/28/2011


ahahaha 😄

You are very right, if it's about a server room where everything it's modern, black, etc... indeed, it doesn't look nice at all.
But mine is at my home, in my loft 🙂 So, the aesthetic part doesn't matter. I was asking only if it's safe or not to use it anymore, because yeah, it's really old and don't want to have a fire or something in the loft of my house 😛

Cheers!

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This reply was originally posted by Angela on APC forums on 2/7/2011


hi adrian,

do you know WHERE it was refurbished? our supported service partner is Coastal Business Machines.

Most APC UPSs have a life expectancy of 10 years. as long as you keep replacing the battery if it fails, since it is consumable, then you should be good to go. i don't know what exactly was refurbished on your particular unit to be honest with you but the electronics inside could fail from age i would assume, unless they were actually replaced. also, the UPS has surge protection. over the years, it may have taken some surges and over time, the surge protection could degrade from accepting surges.

but, if it is still working, i would use it. we have a lifetime equipment protection policy on these units if any attached equipment fails and it is found to be the cause of the UPS. if you take care of it, it should work fine. i cannot speak though for your particular unit and the condition of the electronics inside since I did not see it, but i don't think its a bad idea to continue to use the UPS. just take care of that battery and ensure the unit continues to work properly and transfers to battery, etc

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This was originally posted on APC forums on 3/3/2011


As far as I know, all APC UPS's going back a decade or more will contain extensive power filtering and fault handling capabilities, so if the unit were to develop a problem such as a welded power relay, a blown surge-suppression MOV, or a leaking/blown power capacitor, at most it will just "stop working" rather than exploding in a fireball and taking your chateau with it.

The APC UPS electronics are also inside a very heavy and almost fully-enclosing steel case so even if it did overload and melt down internally, I highly doubt the damage would spread beyond a singed floor, unless you have your UPS under your table saw sitting in a bed of wood shavings and sawdust, next to your ammunition reloading supplies...

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This reply was originally posted by Adrian on APC forums on 2/15/2011


Hello!

No, I don't know where it was refurbished, but I will try to ask the company from where I purchased the unit.
If so, I am still going to use the unit, because as far as I see... APC is really "legendary reliable " :))

If I will have more informations, I'll let you know 🙂

Thank you!
Adrian.

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/22/2011


The main difference between newer and older units is the power conversion efficiency. In older UPS's it is around 75%, newer ones are around 90%. This means you either:

- run longer / have more VA capacity with same battery capacity as older model
- run same amount of time / same VA capacity as older with smaller batteries

Oh and the old ones are beige. That is SO unstylish and retro. They are also squarer with less styling of the plastic.

How can you even tolerate that in a server room? 😉

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This reply was originally posted by steve on APC forums on 5/14/2011


Hi ADI


I have two UPS units, a 1000I and a 2200, I have installed the single node business edition of powerchute, and tried connecting to my 1000I( the 2200 batteries are not sorted yet) however I dont get a screen anything like yours, mine is in a web browser and offers very little info and will only communicate via simple comms and not smart, how did you get the screen shot you posted?

Im running win 7 with usb - serial converter if it makes a difference.

Thanks Herishi

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This reply was originally posted by Jonathan on APC forums on 5/16/2011


Hello Herishi,

The screen capture that ADI has posted is the GUI of our PowerChute Business Edition Console. Also, if you have a Smart-UPS unit the best connection would be Smart-Signaling in order for you to see all the details that our unit can provide. What is connected to the UPS? Is it the serial cable? If it is make sure it is either the 940-0024 or 940-1524. If you are using a Serial to USB adapter, it would also be helpful if you could verify from the manufacturer if it requires a software driver.

Also, when you install PCBE make sure that you choose the Auto-Detect UPS features first.

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Re: SMART UPS 1000I NET - too old or still OK?

This was originally posted on APC forums on 5/26/2011


Hi

I have two older ups, over 10 years, both serial, and both have had their batteries replaced.

When I found out the Apple Macs would not support them, I bought two keyspan serial - usb converters
and used apcupsd to local/remote monitor them.

I since have purchased a smaller apc ups for my usb based NAS.